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Sent to me today:

Movento is new pesticide and is described by Bayer as a lipid
biosynthesis inhibitor.

Bayer does not seem to state which lipid biosynthetic pathways are
blocked but it must be specific to insects and not plants.

Lipids are vital to cellular membrane structures in the lipoprotein
membranes.

It does not say if Movento inhibits the specific enzymes involved in
lipid biosynthesis or block lipids from participating in
biosynthesis. Blocking one or more enzymes would cripple those lipid
biosynthetic pathways relying on that enzyme.

Bayer does state Movento may be toxic to honey bee larvae through
residues in the pollen and nectar!

/http://www.agrian.com/pdfs/MOVENTO_Label1a.pdf /
/This product is potentially toxic to honey bee larvae through residues
in pollen and nectar, but not to adult honey bees. Exposure of adult
bees to direct treatment or residues on blooming crops can lead to
effects on honey bee larvae. See the "Directions for Use"section of this
label for specific crop application instructions that minimize risk to
honey bee larvae.
/
Sounds like Bayer is trying to protect itself from liability if bees
are killed by exposure to Movento.

Now ask yourselves if the plants that are sprayed with MOVENTO ... are
they safe for us to eat ??

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Bee good
John
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GarlyDog · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 1:31 am Post subject:

miel · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:53 am Post subject:

Why does Bayer just not seem to get it? Geez, any 5th grader can see this is a bad idea waiting to happen!

Greedy bastages!

Gordo · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject:

A copy of the 13-page label for this poison was distributed by the Ontario Chief Apiculturalist. It says that Movento can move in the plant's vascular system in all directions, can effect honey bee larval development AND adult queen fertility.

Welcome to the end-times.
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FollowMeChaps · Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:29 pm Post subject:

I think you're all being quite unfair to Bayer.

How do you expect them to make those obscene profits from destroying our planet if they had to tell the truth? Rolling Eyes

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Greg · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:03 pm Post subject:

Gordo · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject:

This is actually far worse than the chems that it's replacing. They killed the adult bees outright, this one messes with the next wave of young bees and potentially prevents future ones. Sheesh.
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Geek at Large and General Pain in the Butt
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miel · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 6:22 pm Post subject:

you would think humans would have learned their lesson after the whole DDT fiasco!

anything that can go wrong, will. -- Murphy

gunther · guard bee Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 61 Location: devon

i would just like to add, that all this is a situation of supply and demand.
there must be some greedy farmers out there, who cant wait for the next
even more "efficient" pesticide to come onto the market, and buy it.
otherwise bayer and the rest wouldnt border producing it. even the
consumers are not without blame, because they could boycott all food
products from countries, that use pesticides.
oh no, hang on. that would mean starving to death.

regards guenther

Gordo · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 7:44 pm Post subject:

biobee · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject:

Using some very handy internet technology, I have created a feed called Bayer's Corporate Crimes (see below). Anyone who still has a grain of sympathy with them should really read some of these stories. You couldn't make this stuff up.

Twisted Evil

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gunther · guard bee Joined: 23 Jul 2008 Posts: 61 Location: devon

hi gord
i'm in no way defending the pesticide lobby. but i want to point out , that the situation is very complex. how and when did it all go wrong in the first place? was it since the industrial revolution? or are we bound for self destruction since adam and eve?
fact is, that there are already way too many people on this planet.
regards guenther

charker · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:51 pm Post subject:

miel · Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:36 am Post subject:

I wrote to the U.S. Senate Agricultural committee, along with the Senators from Wisconsin.

I will continue to attempt to fight this by writing to my local, state, and federal officials.

I urge you all to do the same.

Mikebee · Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 8:41 am Post subject:

It is all very depressing. But good to know that some of Bayers profits help fund the BBKA (The British Beekeepers Association) Rolling Eyes

(I hear a sharp intake of breath from Greg Shocked

Only joking Greg Laughing

)

If you want a good read about this and the rest of the food industry then I would recommend “We Want Real Food” by Graham Harvey. Perhaps this should be in the recommended books section, but it follows this thread and everyone should read it, or at least I wish everyone one would.

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