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watercarving flying bee
Joined: 26 Jan 2008 Posts: 122 Location: North Georgia, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:54 pm Post subject: Homemade fondant and frame removal update |
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Last week I turned my frames upside down in the hive. By today they were mostly bee free. In the interim I had taken one frame, cut out the comb and tied it to a bar and placed it in the hive. Today they had fixed a strip of wax halfway across the bar to secure the comb. Since they seemed to be taking to the idea so well we cut out all the comb and tied it to bars and put them back in the hive. No more frames!
Also, my homemade fondant (corn syrup and powdered sugar) has been a hit. One bar is 1 cup of corn syrup and 7.5 cups of powdered sugar. The weaker hive has eaten about 1/3 of their test bar. The strong hive has eaten about 80% of their bar. The bars were put in Saturday at 4:00pm and I checked them today at 5:00pm. That's a lot of solid food to eat in 72 hours. I assume they don't eat as much during the winter!
They are also taking the syrup faster than I can give it. A gallon paint can won't fit but a 1/2 gallon plastic bucket will. I have it sitting in the back of the hive with plastic screen folded over the side acting as a ladder up from the floor and a ladder down to the syrup. Hope they take it well.
Both hives are making wax again. The weaker hive is making wax and almost all the newly completed cells had liquid in them. That's a good sign. Maybe I can save both these hives. _________________ ------------
John Call
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GarlyDog super bee

Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 627 Location: Joliet, Illinois (USA)
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 3:24 am Post subject: |
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I have been looking for an easy recipe. I think I will give yours a try. Thanks for the post. _________________ Gary
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Gordo super bee

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 300 Location: Kingston, ON, Canada
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| GarlyDog wrote: | | I have been looking for an easy recipe. I think I will give yours a try. Thanks for the post. |
Me too. I've been having a terrible time finding the stuff to buy and it's probably loaded with extraneous junk anyway. _________________ Gord Campbell
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biobee Site Admin

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1928 Location: Devon, SW England
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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You can also make fondant by taking any quantity of honey (or thick syrup) and mixing powdered sugar into it until it won't take any more. You will be surprised at how much it will take...
This recipe is often used for queen candy, for blocking the exit hole in a queen cage. _________________ The Barefoot Beekeeper www.biobees.com |
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wannabee guard bee

Joined: 09 May 2008 Posts: 80 Location: Portland Oregon
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:08 am Post subject: gmo concerns? |
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Need we be worried about Genetically Modified corn in the HFCS?
I am guessing the stuff from Costco isn't organic, or GMO free, but I could be wrong there...
Otherwise this seems a brilliant recipe, and I will try it.
Thanks!
laura _________________ Wannabee
Portland, OR
"Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
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GarlyDog super bee

Joined: 06 Mar 2008 Posts: 627 Location: Joliet, Illinois (USA)
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:14 am Post subject: |
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I want to add to this that it mixes together more quickly if you use your hands. _________________ Gary
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rose883 flying bee

Joined: 05 May 2008 Posts: 105 Location: Brigham City, UT
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I posted this in another thread, but should have posted it in this thread....
I just read about a 'grease patty' made with Crisco and sugar....any comments? It is supposed to be beneficial in controlling varroa (I don't have any, but many of the beekeepers in my area do). The recipe may also inclue mineral salts or tea tree oil along with Corn Syrup or 'Clean Honey.'
Thanks for the fondante recipe...I will be cooking today  _________________ Rose |
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Norm Site Admin

Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1224 Location: Spain in Winter Sweden in Summer
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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What's Crisco?  _________________ Feral bees are natures survivors and have, by the survival of the fittest principle, overcome disease and mite problems without mans intervention. |
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Gordo super bee

Joined: 17 Mar 2008 Posts: 300 Location: Kingston, ON, Canada
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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Norm wrote: | What's Crisco?  |
It's a vegetable shortening, Norm. An alternative to lard. _________________ Gord Campbell
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laura house bee
Joined: 20 Mar 2008 Posts: 18 Location: Athens, OH, USA
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Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't see Crisco as a good thing for any living creature to consume as it is partially hydrogenated vegetable oil. I wouldn't view it as healthy or sustainable. |
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Gary super bee

Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1917 Location: Hirschbach, Germany
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: |
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Grease patties are MAINLY used for two things Control of trachael mites and as EXTENDER patties to feed terramycin and pollen substitites. There is NO, NONE, NOT ONE good reason to use them in cojuncrion with a TBH as we do not reccomend ANY of the above listed uses.
DO NOT confuse grease with fondant they are two TOTALLY different things.
I (just taking responsobility for the advice I give here) reccomend FONDANT be used as an artifical feed only during the re naturalization process of a colony, to keep it alive to be re naturalized in the first place. You can't do anything with dead bees!
The intent is to remove all man made help from the colony completly and get to a sustainable state.
Sustainable = a colony that does not need our help at all, overwinters on it's own honey and produces a little excess for us! _________________ Gary
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Gary super bee

Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 1917 Location: Hirschbach, Germany
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Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: Re: gmo concerns? |
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| wannabee wrote: | Need we be worried about Genetically Modified corn in the HFCS?
I am guessing the stuff from Costco isn't organic, or GMO free, but I could be wrong there...
Otherwise this seems a brilliant recipe, and I will try it.
Thanks!
laura |
BAMB........................did you hear that? that was the sound of the proverbal hammer hitting the proverable nail RIGHT ON THE HEAD!!!!!!
If the GM toxins made it into the nectar and pollen what's to say they are not in the final products, which we will mix and put and into the hive, which the bees will feed to larve and Queen and we shoot ourselves in the other foot!
Thanks again Monsanto!!! _________________ Gary
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