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HIVING A SWARM IN A TBH

 
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Martin White
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 9:57 pm    Post subject: HIVING A SWARM IN A TBH Reply with quote

I HIVED A SWARM LAST YEAR AND IT ABSCONDED AFTER 5 DAYS..

I HAVE CAPTURED A GOOD PROBABLE 1o SWARM THIS WEEK END, FROM ONE OF MY LANGSTROPH HIVES, AND I HIVED IT IN A TBH. I HAVE PLACED A QUEEN EXCLUDER OVER THE BEE ENTRY HOLES.

1. HOW LONG IS IT ADVISED TO LEAVE THE QUEEN EXCLUDER IN PLACE TO REDUCE THE RISK OF THE COLONY ABSCONDING ?
2. DO I NEED TO FEED THE COLONY ?

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2014 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must admit to never having used a queen excluder in a hTBH, so I would be guessing removal once they are building comb and bringing in pollen?
I hope it is a primary swarm and your Queen is mated- or the excluder is going to cause problems.

I would feed them- syrup based feed supplementation is good for bees making fresh comb and establishing a new colony in a virgin hive.
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:12 pm    Post subject: HIVING A SWARM IN A TBH Reply with quote

Thanks, J for your help, I have fed them, and removed the Queen excluder, when should I inspect them, to see if the Queen is laying, they are now 10 days in the new hive.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I normally give the queen 3 weeks before looking for eggs
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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends whether it was a prime swarm or a cast.

If you are seeing pollen being taken in then that is a good indication that your queen is laying and you have brood developing. At this early stage the comb will be very fragile and if you are used to handling bees on Langstroth frames, then you need to be VERY, VERY careful to keep the comb in the vertical plane and not twist the bar at all.

If you really feel the need to inspect them sooner than later, then I would wait 2 weeks after you see pollen being taken in, because it is really difficult to see white eggs and small larvae in pristine white comb that is covered in bees. Once they cap some brood, then it is easier to see and the comb is a little more stable and you are not tempted to tilt it to see into the bottom of the cells.

That would be my advice anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 9:35 pm    Post subject: HIVING A SWARM IN A TBH Reply with quote

Many thanks, for all the help, and the joy in sharing knowledge,and experience.

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