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H1veHead
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Joined: 19 May 2013
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Location: Child Okeford, Dorset, UK.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:57 pm    Post subject: Any advice would be appreciated. Reply with quote

Hi

I caught this swarm on 9th May (see my post in 'Reports and Updates' section):

http://i.imgur.com/5wL4AMC.jpg

I inspected it twice, very briefly. The second occasion was on the 26th May, just before I went on holiday to Turkey (I'll put up a post about honeybees in Turkey soon!).

On that second inspection, the bees had drawn three nice new combs but I didn't spot the queen and couldn't see eggs. Wasn't particularly worried because the girls were very content and busy bringing in pollen and I reckoned that the problem with not seeing the eggs was more due to my eyes that them not being there!

I've just got back from Turkey and inspected the hive today. This is what I found:

No more comb has been built than before. The following photos are of the largest comb. The first three shots are of the comb after I gently blew the bees to move them for the photos, the last two shots are with bees on the comb:

http://i.imgur.com/s3fJHs8.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EY9gRcc.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Ou66bbP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Wt08VuK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vVxBwlb.jpg

What's happening here? Am I right in thinking that there is a problem with the queen due to there being only queen cells, drone cells, but no other brood cells? And why hasn't much more comb been built by now?

What do I need to do (if anything?)

Thanks, as always, in advance for any advice.
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Dexter's shed
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Joined: 16 May 2014
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Location: Grays, Essex, UK

PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say you have a drone laying queen, you need to get a test frame in there of larvae from a good hive, or I'd say they are doomed
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H1veHead
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dexter.

That's what I was afraid of. Problem I have is that my only other colony is also very young - a swarm caught and hived in mid-May - and although they're doing well - capped brood when I inspected them on Tuesday - I'm worried that they're really not well enough established to cope with me taking a comb of brood away from them to put to the other colony so early.

Any thoughts?

H1veHead
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you dont need a whole comb, get a thin filleting knife, and cut a 2"x2" square out of a frame, either eggs or young larvae, then gently push onto another frame in your queenless hive
you may want to find the queen in there and squish her, as she may tear down any QC made by the bees, or dump the whole hive of bees on the grass away from the hive, if its a DLQ or a laying worker, they will get left there, and the others go back to the hive
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Garret
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks to me that you didn't get the queen when you gathered the swarm or it was a cast swarm that lost its queen early on and is laying workers. Is your other hive close to this one? If so shake them out and they can join your queen right colony. Best to smoke both colonies just before.
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rmcpb
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen to Garret.

Cheers
Rob.
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