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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 7:42 pm    Post subject: To Dexter's Shed - Queenless Colonies and pollen Reply with quote

I started a new thread because I didn't want to pull the other off topic.

Sorry Dexter. Usually I make a deal out of using the correct terms so that I'm sure we're talking about the same thing. The focus was mostly sharing notes with someone local to me, and with more experience.

For my education, I thought that bees started bringing in pollen in anticipation of having brood to care for. You said a queenless colony will bring in pollen as well. Does that include colonies that have lost the queen, have no brood, and no chance of raising a new queen?
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pollen is not just used for feeding larva, it's all bees have to make everything from,
I have had queenless swarms and queenless hives, foragers will still fly out and collect pollen, even with no brood to feed, they still need to feed themselves
others will say different, but this is just me going on what's happened with my bees
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PostPosted: Fri May 01, 2015 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Dexter. I just figured I needed to recalibrate my "observations at the entrance before deciding to go in" experience.

Curious, your girls swarming over there yet? Ours are done. This drought has everything pushed up about 6 weeks.

Ron
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not yet where I am, but they did swarm this time last year, our year here has been a bit funny, started nice real early in the year, then went bad for a bit, proper british weather,lol

I'm slightly different than most on here, started with top bar hives, but didn't have a lot of luck with them, and most friends keep bees in standard national hives so I swapped over to them, I class myself as a lazy beekeeper as I don't treat my bees with anything, mostly leave them to themselves, after all they did ok before we came along, I do however keep check for swarm cells as it saves climbing over neighbours fences to get my bees back Razz

I have a few hives in my woodland, a combination of commercial hives and rose hives and a couple of nationals in my back garden, also just bought a langstroth, hoping to get a swarm in it this year so I can add a super next year with those new flow frames from Australia, have you seen those, honey on tap Very Happy

here's one I checked yesterday

https://youtu.be/Jj5qU-2CezY
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2015 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pollen is mostly used to feed larvae and young bees. It is their source of proteins, minerals and fats.

See http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/in868
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