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davids
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:15 pm    Post subject: bees in tree Reply with quote

Hi I have a swarm that has gone into an tree hole about 2ft from the ground, any suggestions of how to relocate them with felling tree. The hole it the tree is only 2inches wide>
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catchercradle
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless there is a really pressing reason not to leave them where they are, I would let them be.

In my book a really pressing reason might be they are an aggressive colony close to where someone with an allergy to bee stings has to pass regularly. I am sure others could come up with other scenarios requiring their movement. It is also possible to do a trapout. Search the forums for how to do this as it is documented. I have never done it so can not comment on it's effectiveness i.e. percentage success rate.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would warn against doing a trap out on a swarm that has not long moved in. I did one last year and they starved to death literally. The cone filled up with dead and dying bees and the ones that made it out were too weak to make it into the bait box and fell to the ground and died. It was heart breaking.
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ingo50
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Catchercradle. If there is no good reason to remove them, rejoice in the situation that these bees are living as nature intended and who knows, if you set up a swarm trap, you may get some healthy feral bees in the future.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to cut my post short yesterday regarding the trap out but I too would encourage the conservation of the tree with the bees in it if at all possible. The great thing is that you don't need to build a new hive for them if you leave them in situ!

I would also like to add that "trap outs" do work for more established colonies, but I would never attempt one on a new swarm again. I think it would have been kinder to let them be sprayed with insecticide, than suffer the slow starvation that occurred through the trap out.
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davids
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am going to leave them alone, they are quite aggressive, I got stung and I was standing at least 12 ft away, I will give them some time and they may calm down.

Thanks for all your help
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they don't settle down and continue to be a problem as regards stinging, then a trap out may be the best way to go and at that height a relatively simple procedure although it does take a few weeks to get them all out.

In the meantime, is it possible to place screen around the tree a couple of feet off it, to force the bees to travel upwards above head height and shield the entrance from view? It is generally guard bees that attack and sting and they are usually on duty at the entrance, so if they can't see a potential threat from the entrance, the aggressive behaviour should stop. The weather may also be causing them to be tetchy or they may be short of food... that certainly makes them grumpy. Of course, it's not possible to check for that or place a feeder in a tree and I'm not fond of artificial feeding except in extreme circumstances or external feeding stations.... so I'm really just suggesting a possible cause for their current behaviour.

I hope they settle down and become good neighbours but if you have to resort to removing them and need any advice on doing the trap out, I'm happy to try and answer any queries, or talk you through it.

Good luck with them

Barbara
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davids
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I will put a couple of hay bales in front of them as a screen.

Thanks, I'll keep you posted
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