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freebee
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:51 pm    Post subject: eco floor Reply with quote

last year I built a top bar hive with ecofloor
do I have to clean this floor and put new ground, leaves ect. in it, or can I leave it? If I have to change it when is a good time?
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catchercradle
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't tried eco floor yet but my understanding is to just leave it unless there is a clear reason to do anything, e.g. a mass of dead bees on the bottom. Thinking of adding one to one of my hives to see how it goes.
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freebee
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the reply.
It was +10 C today and I saw the bees coming out.
But I also noticed many on the ecofloor, can I leave them there until spring? Or can I open the bottom and remove them when it is about 10C?
This is my first winter, so I am a bit insecure.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not opening up anything till it reaches about 14C. A good guide is if you can walk around outside comfortably with t t-shirt as your sole wear on top, it is warm enough to open the hives and I am not talking about Those waiting to get into night clubs in Manchester even when it is in minus temperatures because if female is is fashionable and if male macho Laughing
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trekmate
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like catchercradle, I've not used an eco-floor, but my understanding is that you should leave the contents, but be prepared to add more if it has settled.

As for the bees on the floor, the aim is to replicate the eco-system in a hollow tree, so I'd leave them for the bees to remove or the bees may choose to let join the mulch in the floor.

Summary - Leave the bees and add mulch if needed when it's warm enough to open the hive.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above, unless you have reason to clean it out, such as compaction of material or too much accumulation of damp.

The eco-floor is far from being an exact science, so do whatever works best for you and report back with your observations.

All I can say for sure is that it seems to be a happy medium between the cold and draughty open mesh floor and the moisture-accumulating solid floor. I have not yet been able to study its inhabitants sufficiently to know for sure if it solves any other problems, but the more people who try variations of this idea, the better picture we will have of its potential.
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