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John
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 Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject: Has anyone tried this |
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My motive for starting this thread was and still is because I want to be convinced by those with experience of "crush and strain" harvesting that it's going to be safe for me to harvest honey from Warre hives, and safe for my customers to eat it. Is the only way of doing this by placing a fresh box on top, and allowing the colony to fill freshly drawn comb exclusively for harvest? Has anyone tried this successfully?
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Yes - Robbie Kerr, from Ayrshire, who used the Stewarton Bee Hive from about 1818 onwards, another hive using the same principles as the Warre, only earlier. The idea was to nadir when the bees were building up and then to super during the main nectar flow. Robbie Kerr was renouned for his fine comb honey and won prizes for it at National competitions. The queen, being occupied in the lower boxes has no reason to migrate to the upper boxes.
Apart from foundation, the other thing the moveable frame hive got wrong was to force the bees to brood in a non-extensible brood box. So today, swarming is the number two issue for all modern beeks (after ccd and bee health).
Much more details available from google.
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John
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject: Skep honey and poo |
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| Tavascarow wrote: |
In Skep keeping days the comb was eaten brood et al & the eater probably benefited from the extra protein, vitamins & minerals it contained even if the bees didn't? & the extra little bits that nowadays would be processed out added to the immune system which in modern man & woman is becoming seriously compromised. |
Absolutely my friend... I read in one of the old books that the skep was sqeezed in a vise to harvest honey and juices from brood, dead bees and probably bits of cow dung from the covering of the skep. In the mid 17th Century beekeepers became interested in the Preservation of the Bees and honey free from brood could be harvested. Some of the predecessors of the Warre were born then. The skill of harvesting honey without killing the bees goes back to Greek and Roman times but the Medieval beekeepers lost that knowledge.
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JL_COG
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Sounds like you have solved the problem for yourself  |
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zaunreiter
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Cutting the ham out of the pig without killing it.
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John
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| Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 6:50 pm Post subject: Pig with a wooden leg |
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| zaunreiter wrote: | Cutting the ham out of the pig without killing it.
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A man visits a farm and is being shown around by the farmer. In the farm yard there is a pig with a wooden leg.
'What's with the pig with the wooden leg?' asks yer man.
'Aye! That's my best pig.' sez the farmer. 'Last year I was charged in the field by a mad bull and that pig leaped over the fence and chased the bull away.'
'Thats incredible' sez yer man 'Pig with a wooden leg leaping over hedges and chasing bulls'.
'Aye ... He didn't have a wooden leg then" sez the farmer, "But 6 month's ago the kitchen caught fire and my missus was overcome by smoke. Yon pig breaks in through the kitchen door and drags her to safety, rekon he saved her life'.
'Why that's incredible' sez yer man, 'Pig with a wooden...'
'He didn't have a wooden leg then ' sez the farmer ' but last month armed robbers came to steal the combine harvester and that pig disarmed all four of them and cornered them in the cow shed till the police came.'
'My goodness!' sez yer man 'How on earth does a pig with a woo...'
'He didn't have a wooden leg then' sez the farmer.
'Well, HOW did he get a wooden leg then?' asks yer man.
'Far too good a pig to eat all at once!' beams the farmer. |
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