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Two-Thirds of European Honeybee Pollen Contaminated

 
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 2:32 pm    Post subject: Two-Thirds of European Honeybee Pollen Contaminated Reply with quote

Death of the Bees: Two-Thirds of European Honeybee Pollen Contaminated By Dozens of Pesticides

http://www.globalresearch.ca/death-of-the-bees-two-thirds-of-european-honeybee-pollen-contaminated-by-dozens-of-pesticides/5378290
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A study by Greenpeace?

Hardly objective.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you would prefer that Bayer did it?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 19, 2014 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be better is someone with a little bias as possible does the research.

The problem with a study done by someone with obvious bias is that is will always be questioned by the other side (particularly in today's climate where so much science gets attacked politically).
Greenpeace has such a reputation of being radically anti-(insert fur/pesticide/hunting/whatever here) that it becomes automatically suspect when they publish a study that supports what they already profess even if it is correct.

I do accept the premise that there are too many pesticides use and in too high a quantity.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

biobee wrote:
Maybe you would prefer that Bayer did it?


I accept that Bayer will be biased as will Greenpeace.

It's a waste of my time and my ageing brain cells and declining memory to read reports that almost certainly will be biased.

I have neither the ability or background knowledge to be competent to identify all bias... so prefer studies by indpendent competent third parties. Those I will read.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

madasafish wrote:
...indpendent competent third parties. Those I will read.


Who are those independant people? Certainly would like to know them.

I took part in the Greenpeace study and provided pollen. What did you do in the meantime to make things better?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately everyone has an agenda and even the illusive independents are generally given a brief to "find x". When they can't be 100% scientifically certain they found x (which is near impossible to start with) the correct conclusion has to be "inconclusive" thats why the only sensible option is to disprove theoreticals. Our theory is that pesticides are destroying the health of our bees.
Perhaps there is an unflawed study to disprove that?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The truth about neonics and colony collapse and how Bayer suppressed it.

http://directory.libsyn.com/episode/index/id/2426742
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