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Questions following chop and crop for my first TBH

 
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Mr Powly
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject: Questions following chop and crop for my first TBH Reply with quote

Hi All,
I'm a complete novice, and have built myself a TBH following Phil's plan and a few tips from the forums here (I went for the Eco-floor because I liked the idea). I ended up ordering a nuc, because I couldn't find anyone local to help me out with a swarm, and don't currently have time to go looking for one myself. I was expecting it to arrive in a few weeks time, but because of the great spring we've had so far the bees arrived this week, before I'd had time to read quite as much as I'd have liked!

I transferred them to their new home yesterday, having left them a couple of days to get their bearings, using the chop and crop method with the help of a friend.

I have a couple of quick questions I haven't been able to find answers to, if I may:

Firstly, because the top bars of the combs I have taken from the nuc are narrow, there are spaces between them. I've placed a piece of fabric and some newspaper over the top of them as Phil does in his video, but this still leaves gaps at the ends where the bars overhang the edges of the hive by half a centimetre or so, through which the bees, and perhaps robbers, can come and go. Is this a problem? The bees now have 10 or so extra entrances, albeit small ones, to defend.

Second; presumably I am aiming at some point to remove these combs which originate from the nuc. However as it stands I assume they will form the heart of the brood nest, so I am unclear as to the point at which it's appropriate to think about removing these combs and replacing them with my own top bars.

My bees see to be doing ok so far, according to by inexpert observations. They are very active in the sunshine, with perhaps 20 circling rapidly outside the entrance at any one time, and zooming off in different directions occasionally. I haven't been able to see whether they are bringing anything back yet, as I'm forcing myself to leave them alone.

Any advice very much appreciated!

Tom
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madasafish
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a strip of cardboard long enough to cover all the top bars and wide enough to cover the top, end and projecting underneath of the bars. Fit it over the ends of the bars like the guards for a saw. Reinforce it with gaffer tape if needed. That should seal of the ends.. You will of course have to do either side..

When I did my chop& crop 4 years ago, I skimmed the height of standard top bars so they would fit the middle of a national frame and left the ends the standard height so the national top bar fitted inside the resulting hole and the bar was flush vertically and horizontally with standard TBH top bars.

Screwed them together..never fell apart.. Still in use..
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Mr Powly
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply, both very neat ideas! I will shape up some top bars this afternoon and try to fit them this evening.

Tom
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2014 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have become a master bodger:-)
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