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bytheeye New Bee
Joined: 25 May 2014 Posts: 7 Location: north west uk
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject: castes |
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Does anyone know, can you take a ripe queen cell, and attract feral foragers, or simply take a cup of nurses from selected colony make a nucleus? does the virgin have to have related nurses around
to emerge? |
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biobee Site Admin

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: UK, England, S. Devon
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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Can you please describe exactly what you are trying to achieve here, so we can answer your question more accurately?
I am removing that poll as it is inappropriate in this context. |
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bytheeye New Bee
Joined: 25 May 2014 Posts: 7 Location: north west uk
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:13 pm Post subject: reply |
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Just wondered, with a queen cell, alone, should it emerge, are there any options.? Apologies please if on wrong thread. Or is this question more suited to lab rearing forum? Not on here? |
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biobee Site Admin

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: UK, England, S. Devon
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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A queen cell on its own is no use to you. Queens need to emerge among bees, who will feed her and groom her.
Please tell us what you are trying to do, exactly. |
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bytheeye New Bee
Joined: 25 May 2014 Posts: 7 Location: north west uk
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: genetics |
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Do the nurses have to be sisters? Not trying to do anything, but can a keeper put said cell alone on a frame and introduce desired breed of workers to maul her? As a learner I hope correct language used? |
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Dexter's shed Scout Bee
Joined: 16 May 2014 Posts: 307 Location: Grays, Essex, UK
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:45 pm Post subject: Re: genetics |
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bytheeye wrote: | Do the nurses have to be sisters? Not trying to do anything, but can a keeper put said cell alone on a frame and introduce desired breed of workers to maul her? As a learner I hope correct language used? |
you say desired breed of workers as though they were something special, not related to her, are they special?? |
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biobee Site Admin

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: UK, England, S. Devon
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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"maul"? Sounds to me like you need to learn to walk before you try to run.
An emerging queen needs warmth and she needs to be fed and cared for immediatly on emerging. The bees with her do not need to be her sisters, but there do need to be enough of them to protect her and they need to have foragers bringing in food meanwhile.
No, you cannot just attract feral bees to look after her - that is a non-starter.
I really suggest you come on a course and read some books before trying to keep bees. You are within reach of Brinscall Hall, for example, where we may have another beginners course on October if there is a demand. |
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bytheeye New Bee
Joined: 25 May 2014 Posts: 7 Location: north west uk
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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There is the question? Will queen be nurtured by strangers or ignored and left with drifting nurses? |
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bytheeye New Bee
Joined: 25 May 2014 Posts: 7 Location: north west uk
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you, great help |
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biobee Site Admin

Joined: 14 Jun 2007 Posts: 1059 Location: UK, England, S. Devon
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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"drifting nurses"? |
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bytheeye New Bee
Joined: 25 May 2014 Posts: 7 Location: north west uk
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Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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As my profile says "newbie" |
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colobeekeep Scout Bee
Joined: 27 Aug 2010 Posts: 289 Location: USA, Colorado, Denver
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Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:54 am Post subject: |
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If you put a queen cell into an empty hive, then the queen will die. There are no roaming "nurse bees" flying from hive to hive looking for a new queen to take care of. Even if the queen emerges from her cell there will be no bees to feed her and care for her.
The only bees flying around looking for a hive to move into are bees from a swarm. If the swarm moves into the hive, they will kill her.
There is no reason to even consider moving a queen cell to an empty hive. That will accomplish nothing, except the killing of a queen bee.
As Biobee recommended, read several books and take a beekeeping course before working with bees. |
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