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Oil or wax on cedar TBH?

 
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ingo50
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Location: Newport, Gwent, Wales, UK

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 10:43 pm    Post subject: Oil or wax on cedar TBH? Reply with quote

Could members please advise on treating the exterior of a new TBH with a suitable non-toxic safe wax or oil. I live near Cardiff in South Wales, we get a lot of rain here. Should I leave the cedar wood untreated? Many thanks.
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trekmate
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Untreated is fine for cedar. It's reputed to last for 40 to 60 years outside without protection. The red colour will slowly fade to silver/grey.

You could opt for RAW linseed oil and beeswax - 20 parts oil 1 bees wax, melted in a bain-marie and painted on while hot. This would need to be re-applied every year or so or it will look scruffy. NOTE: Boiled linseed has some nasty additives!

If you have a cedar roof I'd paint raw linseed oil on that as a minimum to help rain bead and roll off.
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ingo50
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you very much trekmate, I was planning on using marine ply for the roof as cedar planks are 2,5 cm thick and ply will be easier to use as a single sheet on each side. Any ideas on eco-friendly paint for the roof or has anyone use linseed oil there as well. Many thanks.
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trekmate
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My favourite roof is aluminum sheet over the ply. http://fragile-planet.co.uk/aluminium-roof-sheet-reclaimed.html

3 sheets will cover a 36 or 48 inch hive. If you plan to build more hives order plenty of sheets (I don't get commission), the P&P barely changes!

The aluminium is thin and bends easily to form around the ply.
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MikeRobinson
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A product available here, "Thompson's Water-Seal," will weather-proof any sort of bare wood with a single light coating ... which can be brushed or sprayed on. I used it on the outside of my (found-wood ...) hives, as well as on a few pieces of outdoor furniture. The wood "weathers" delightfully and naturally, yet it keeps the water out. Bees don't mind. (I used it exterior-only.)
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Merinos
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

most natural protection : torching the hive. Torched wood is not attractive to insect, does resist fungus...
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