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Artifical swarm plus old colony with eco floor?

 
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Michael Dreyer
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:13 am    Post subject: Artifical swarm plus old colony with eco floor? Reply with quote

Dear friends,

TBHs are very good to house 2 colonies, i.e. an artifical swarm with the old queen and the old colony raising a new queen. In order to make it work the follower board has to sit correctly on the wooden board or mesh floor to separate the two ones otherwise they will fight.

Hearing about an eco floor I am wondering how that will work because with the eco floor it seems that I cannot separate the two colonies anymore because they can "visit" each other across the open eco floor.

How do you go about that?

Best regards
Michael
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trekmate
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi again Michael (I e-mailed you this morning)

You can make the follower longer to go down into the floor, or pile up the material against the follower. Either way, I always put two follower boards between the two colonies so there is a "no-man's land" in between. If a few bees get through they see it as "outside".

John
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2014 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is what Phil Chandler suggested on a recent course whilst talking about splits, he also mentioned turning the TBH by 180 degrees and moving the hive sideways so that the old queen and flying bees retain the original flight path , whilst the new queenless section with queen cells and nurse bees will fly into the hive on the other side on a new flightpath. This should give the bees a Varoa break as well.
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AugustC
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is actually easier to stop "interlopers" with an ecofloor.
The follower board hasn't got a bottom that it must fit to. Once in place you just heap the material up at the bottom to create the block.
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