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Feeding small amount of sugar cake to wild hive

 
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charentejohn
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Location: Central France - Charente

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:36 pm    Post subject: Feeding small amount of sugar cake to wild hive Reply with quote

Just a general question.
I have a relocated hive of 'wild' bees who are just in a space with no combs etc. and wondered if I should feed them some sugar at this time, or if later when.
I was thinking of mixing powdered sugar and water to make a slab of sugar in a small lid (10x6cm and .5cm deep) and putting it in the slot entrance to the hive. Done so it can be removed easily.
Just thinking this may help after the freezing temps we have had here in France. A bucket of water in the garage froze solid.

I know there is a whole world of feeding and people feed large amounts over winter but I just wondered if a small amount would help in this case.
I remember reading bees don't freeze to death so much as starve to death due to keeping warm.

Wonderd if doing this now and seeing if it gets used up. If it does I can put a little more out till they start flying in spring.
They are in a box attached to the side of a TBH so would have to leave the box and go into the TBH to feed, feeder would not be in the main hive.

Temeratures improving now and I did cover the hives with a tarpaulin and cloths in the worst of the cold, generates no heat but kept the wind chill off.

Any advice appreciated, just a thought I had that it may help.
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trekmate
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If, as you say, they have no combs, feeding would be essential! How have they survived this far with no food stored? Do you see foraging throughout the year? Are you sure they have no combs now? When were they relocated?

It's amazing how quickly they can build comb and pack away stores with a good nectar flow.
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charentejohn
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the reply, it is ok as they have old comb. It is hard to explain but this thread shows the situation, http://www.biobees.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18841&highlight=
They are still in the old hive on the side with all original comb. They came out of the old hive (box) through a gap as well as the new TBH entrance as both are joined.
I thought it may be worth feeding a little just to be sure the drones have food so they can hit the ground running as soon as things pick up. With the disruption of the move, although there were well settled and foraging well before winter, they could use a little more energy.

I did feed a little sugar water (1:1) before winter, done on a feeder about 4m from the hive. Not much but I believe it promotes comb building and the only place to build is in the TBH. I will start again for a while when they start flying in spring. I eventually want to move them completely to the TBH but that is another thread in spring I think.

For now I was thinking of just a tray of sugar (basically) they can take if they need it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, just went out to see if I had a tray small enough to fit and the girls are already out and about. So I just put a 3:1 water to sugar mix jar against an adjacent tree in case they are interested.

I had the hive covered with tarpaulins etc but have removed them so they have a clear run. Temps all now above freezing for next 2 weeks (predicted) so they should be ok. They don't waste time, I must get to planting up the flowerbeds. They are next to a stand of trees covered with Ivy which may help.
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