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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:43 pm Post subject: Update: Easy feeder/pest control system |
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I've added three photos to my album on my easy feeder/pest control design. Small hive beetles are beginning to reproduce again and one jar trap by an entrance has captured at least a dozen adults and one larva. The traps have comb with pollen and honey. I drizzle a bit of honey on the funnels to entice them in, and once they enter, the funnel won't let them climb back into the hive. I had to feed the bees this winter due to low stores, and this system made it very, very easy. No removing roofs or top bars to place a feeder inside. Just unscrew one of the jars and screw in a jar of syrup in its place. I did find some beetles at the bottom of one empty feeder jar, so I dumped the contents onto a cinder block and crushed them with a brick. That was in a weaker hive. In a stronger hive, I found no beetles in the feeder jar, only in a trap. Hopefully, as the colonies grow in strength, they'll all chase the beetles into the traps. http://imgur.com/a/3YTzK |
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WileyHunter Moderator Bee
Joined: 13 Jan 2014 Posts: 125 Location: Batesville, IN USA
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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Bookmarked that page! Thanks for sharing.
I'm hoping to have our first TBH completed this week and this will likely come into play. While I'd rather not 'have' to feed the gals, I know reality is that (at least with winters like this we will likely need to), I like that this is a solution that allows you to do so without disturbing the hive. |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 12:20 am Post subject: |
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Just don't get any syrup onto the lip of the jars or the rings because when it dries it can be hard to unscrew. That only happened once, but it was a lesson learned! The thing I like about it is it's simple to add onto the hive and very cost effective. Whether you want to just add one hole for a feeder, or go all the way like I did and add holes for traps, it can be done very inexpensively with canning supplies.
I have to feed one hive after dark because it tends to get robbed. It's nice not having to open the hive up and move top bars. There's no disturbance of the hive at all. I went out this afternoon after putting a couple more traps in place earlier in the day and found that small hive beetles had already been lured inside. I'm experimenting with where to place the holes for the traps. So far one that is right below an entrance has caught the most, probably ones entering the hive. |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I'm now seeing wax moth larvae in the traps. Webs and cocoons are being spun in the funnels and the jars. To make sure none escape, since a web hanging down from a funnel would offer a route out, I trade out the trap for a new one and put a solid lid on and place it in the hot sun to give those pasty pests a tan. http://imgur.com/a/3YTzK  |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2014 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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In case some some of you are trying this method, here is another update. We are out of the pest season and into the feeding season. As I already mentioned, the traps caught a lot of pests. I found only a handful of beetles and no larvae over the course of the spring/summer. But food stores is a different problem. One hive was on the verge of starvation I discovered. It's been raining for two days but the system allows me to screw in quart jars of syrup without opening the hive (with four stations, I could give them a gallon at one time). When I checked earlier today, the bees had emptied most of one jar, which was directly below the cluster. I added a picture showing the bees inside the feeder jar. http://imgur.com/a/3YTzK |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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It being a dearth season, robbers were inevitably drawn to the syrup even though access required them to navigate a small entrance and work their way to the back half of the hive. I closed up the hive and added a screened ventilation top bar. It's simply a top bar with 3/4" holes drilled along its length and screen stapled to one side. The robbers will eventually leave in frustration and the returning foragers will simply congregate at the ventilation holes seeking a way in. I'll remove it at dusk and let the foragers in and then open the entrance. I'll check it in the morning, and if I see continued robbing, I'll close up the hive and put the ventilation bar back in place. I added a picture of it, but with the screen on the under surface all you can see are the holes. |
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andy pearce Silver Bee
Joined: 30 Aug 2009 Posts: 663 Location: UK, East Sussex, Brighton
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:51 am Post subject: |
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We do not have the beetles yet (they are on their way!) but I like the multipurpose-ness of your idea....I have this bookmarked.
Thanks for sharing
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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You're welcome. It's very easy to use and simple, as well as inexpensive, to make, especially for the backyard beekeeper like me with only a few hives. |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2015 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I haven't posted in a while (although I often visit just to see what's going on here). I continue to experiment with my system. I decided to go with only three holes for the next two hives, but have concluded that four is better. Three is too spread out. I live in an area where small hive beetles thrive. Augusta, GA is famous for the Masters Tournament and pollen, and as soon as stuff starts blooming here, the beetles start reproducing. The traps are catching a lot of larvae, but on inspecting one of my hives, I found some larvae crawling on the floor between the traps. I just brushed them into the holes and down the funnels and that was it. I haven't seen any more since, although I have seen two adults on a comb; one I crushed, the other I couldn't get to. I caught a swarm and split another hive, so I've been feeding through the bottom board as well. It's been convenient to place the feeder jar close to the cluster without having to open the hive up. http://imgur.com/a/3YTzK |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, everybody!
Here's my yearly update for those of you dealing with small hive beetles. I made a big change in my lids and I've updated my album http://imgur.com/a/3YTzK . I no longer use screened lids because the screens were breaking down, some faster than others (some screens went two years, others a year), and bees were getting into the traps (I probably lost a couple dozen). Plus, they were the most complicated part of the system to make. I discovered that making gaps with a chisel created perfect slots, big enough for beetles and plump wax moth larvae but too small for bees, and I could make them very fast, unlike the screened ones. After testing them to make doubly sure no bees could get through them, I put them in place of all the screened lids.
Honestly, I love this system. Small hive beetles have completely ceased to be an issue in my hives these last three years. Previously, I tried passive trapping with tubs of mineral oil or diatomaceous earth under screens, but active trapping with bait works much better. Initially, the beetles may be ending up in the traps by being chased and looking for a hiding place, but once a female lays eggs in the bait and they hatch, the feeding larvae seem to draw more adult beetles into the the traps as I find many more adults in traps with larvae than in those without. It makes sense that in a dark hive the beetles would rely on scent much like bees do.
I make sure when I build my hives that there is absolutely no place for SHB's to hide--no cracks, splits, or crevices of any kind. Their nature is to find dark, tight places to get away from the bees. The traps become the "perfect" place, especially now with the slotted lids in place of the screens. Besides beetles, the traps catch wax moths, ants, and sometimes small cockroaches.
I also added a few pictures showing what I use to close a hive and the method behind it, as well as how my follower boards can be used for paper combines.
If anyone else on this forum is using this system, I'd love to hear from you.
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Barbara Site Admin
Joined: 27 Jul 2011 Posts: 1857 Location: England/Co.Durham/Ebchester
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:49 am Post subject: |
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Just wanted to say many thanks for sharing your ingenuity with us. I think your ideas are incredibly clever and the simplicity of them, using mostly everyday items with only a very basic DIY skill level/tools, means that anyone can make them. Love it!
Thankfully we don't have small hive beetle here in the UK yet, but your system will be my go to option, as and when we do.
Really appreciate you taking the time to document it so clearly.
Cheers
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks, Barbara! From the beginning of this project, I had in mind that it had to be cheap, easy to make, and effective. The lids were the only sticking point on that, and now I think that's solved. I hope the beetles never make it to your side of the pond, but know that if they do, this will take care of them. For me, the beetles have gone from a major concern to none at all, and I'm glad to be able to share this with anyone who can use it.
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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For those of you who showed interest in this system, I wanted to update this thread because I've changed and adapted the system. Although I don't show this in the album, one of the most important adaptations I've made is I started using the holes for administering oxalic acid treatments with a vaporizer. This has saved my hives. My bees were surviving SHB only to fall to varroa after a couple of years. I slide cardboard dividers on either side of the brood nest and then remove the closest trap. I added mason jar rings to my vaporizer in such a way as to create a good seal with the rings at the bottom of the hive. The other changes are simply streamlining the existing system. I also added a photo of my "top bar closers", which is what I call the plastic strips I use to push bees down between bars so I can close the hive. |
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Barnie House Bee
Joined: 15 Jan 2019 Posts: 10 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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JGW07 wrote: | For those of you who showed interest in this system, I wanted to update this thread because I've changed and adapted the system. Although I don't show this in the album, one of the most important adaptations I've made is I started using the holes for administering oxalic acid treatments with a vaporizer. This has saved my hives. My bees were surviving SHB only to fall to varroa after a couple of years. I slide cardboard dividers on either side of the brood nest and then remove the closest trap. I added mason jar rings to my vaporizer in such a way as to create a good seal with the rings at the bottom of the hive. The other changes are simply streamlining the existing system. I also added a photo of my "top bar closers", which is what I call the plastic strips I use to push bees down between bars so I can close the hive. |
Thanks for the update. You gave me a few interesting ideas by the way. Though my DIY skills aren't as good as yours I think I might do something like that. I'm currently using a few fly traps from this list as my main tool because those can catch flies, cockroaches and moths. Bees can be trapped too but if it gets inside it doesn't die, I can free them later. |
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JGW07 Scout Bee
Joined: 06 Apr 2010 Posts: 272 Location: USA, GA, Hephzibah
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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Barnie, you're welcome. That's interesting about the fly traps. I need one of those right now because we're in the fly season here and they're everywhere!
I'm currently experimenting with 3D printing my lids instead of using the canning lids. Right now, the bees will seal up the slots within a few weeks, faster during the summer (something they never did when I used screened lids, but those were too time consuming to make). I have a printed lid with a series of long slots that the bees don't seem inclined to close up, and I want to add a little handle I can grab to conveniently pull the lid out of the hole. I'll add to my Imgur album when I'm happy with the new lids. |
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